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    "detail": "Carried forward by --carry-hand-edits on 2026-09-25: the writer produced this line again and the pack on disk records it removed by hand on 2026-09-25 (matched on its section). The earlier record reads: removed from this pack by hand on 2026-09-25 (UTC), after the writer ran and after the gates had counted: drops the scope the page gives the 9 to 22 per cent (four models of twelve billion parameters and under), at the card on the energy figure, and ollama's planner with an eight-bit cache on the fit claim. Not a gate drop, and recorded here so the ledger adds up."
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    "reason": "hand-edit",
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    "withheld": "one section digest removed from this pack by hand",
    "removed_utc": "2026-09-25",
    "why": "says the page cannot say how fast either card reads a long prompt, and drops the next sentence, which scopes it: every card-to-card language figure is decode, and the filled-window rows are this card's alone. The page prints this card's long-prompt reads, 1,677.0 tokens a second on a 196,080-token prompt among them",
    "detail": "Carried forward by --carry-hand-edits on 2026-09-25: the writer produced this line again and the pack on disk records it removed by hand on 2026-09-25 (matched on its section). The earlier record reads: removed from this pack by hand on 2026-09-25 (UTC), after the writer ran and after the gates had counted: says the page cannot say how fast either card reads a long prompt, and drops the next sentence, which scopes it: every card-to-card language figure is decode, and the filled-window rows are this card's alone. The page prints this card's long-prompt reads, 1,677.0 tokens a second on a 196,080-…"
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   {
    "kind": "digest",
    "reason": "hand-edit",
    "item": null,
    "item_chars": 210,
    "text_sha": "a9aad899c291",
    "section": "what-16-gb-holds",
    "withheld": "one section digest removed from this pack by hand",
    "removed_utc": "2026-09-25",
    "why": "gives an eight-bit qwen3.5:9b's 253,440 tokens without the condition the page measures it under, the KV cache at eight bits, and without the card: the page says that limit is this card's, and the same file held 71,168 tokens on the Founders Edition",
    "detail": "Carried forward by --carry-hand-edits on 2026-09-25: the writer produced this line again and the pack on disk records it removed by hand on 2026-09-25 (matched on its section). The earlier record reads: removed from this pack by hand on 2026-09-25 (UTC), after the writer ran and after the gates had counted: gives an eight-bit qwen3.5:9b's 253,440 tokens without the condition the page measures it under, the KV cache at eight bits, and without the card: the page says that limit is this card's, and the same file held 71,168 tokens on the Founders Edition. Not a gate drop, and recorded here so the l…"
   },
   {
    "kind": "digest",
    "reason": "hand-edit",
    "item": null,
    "item_chars": 226,
    "text_sha": "6516cb2c4dbf",
    "section": "the-board",
    "withheld": "one section digest removed from this pack by hand",
    "removed_utc": "2026-09-25",
    "why": "states the link's PCIe x16 generation 4 without the page's 'under load' and without its next words, that generation 4 was the slot's limit and not the card's, a PCIe 5.0 part",
    "detail": "removed from this pack by hand on 2026-09-25 (UTC), after the writer ran and after the gates had counted: states the link's PCIe x16 generation 4 without the page's 'under load' and without its next words, that generation 4 was the slot's limit and not the card's, a PCIe 5.0 part. Not a gate drop, and recorded here so the ledger adds up."
   },
   {
    "kind": "digest",
    "reason": "hand-edit",
    "item": null,
    "item_chars": 198,
    "text_sha": "21379cecdae3",
    "section": "the-sixty-watts",
    "withheld": "one section digest removed from this pack by hand",
    "removed_utc": "2026-09-25",
    "why": "says the limiter flag was raised on 'several samples' at 300 W and 360 W, a scope word the page lacks: the page gives shares from none of six language files' samples to all of a pipeline's, and says the flag is not the same thing as lost speed",
    "detail": "removed from this pack by hand on 2026-09-25 (UTC), after the writer ran and after the gates had counted: says the limiter flag was raised on 'several samples' at 300 W and 360 W, a scope word the page lacks: the page gives shares from none of six language files' samples to all of a pipeline's, and says the flag is not the same thing as lost speed. Not a gate drop, and recorded here so the ledger adds up."
   },
   {
    "kind": "digest",
    "reason": "hand-edit",
    "item": null,
    "item_chars": 214,
    "text_sha": "f3156b53e7ce",
    "section": "the-tables",
    "withheld": "one section digest removed from this pack by hand",
    "removed_utc": "2026-09-25",
    "why": "says the tables give median values for recipes, diffusion and training; the page calls the language rows, their watts and the game turn medians, and a training row is one run per cap, the trainer's own per-epoch seconds summed over 415 steps",
    "detail": "removed from this pack by hand on 2026-09-25 (UTC), after the writer ran and after the gates had counted: says the tables give median values for recipes, diffusion and training; the page calls the language rows, their watts and the game turn medians, and a training row is one run per cap, the trainer's own per-epoch seconds summed over 415 steps. Not a gate drop, and recorded here so the ledger adds up."
   },
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    "reason": "hand-edit",
    "item": null,
    "item_chars": 178,
    "text_sha": "6624713fb966",
    "chip_id": "c-ae7574c4",
    "withheld": "one chip removed from this pack by hand",
    "removed_utc": "2026-09-25",
    "why": "gives the 24 to 45 and 24 to 48 per cent fewer joules without what they are fewer than, the Founders Edition's at the same 300 W, and without their scope, the seven core-bank language builds: the claim chip c-682fb12e was removed for at the v10 re-pack, asked in new words",
    "detail": "removed from this pack by hand on 2026-09-25 (UTC), after the writer ran and after the gates had counted: gives the 24 to 45 and 24 to 48 per cent fewer joules without what they are fewer than, the Founders Edition's at the same 300 W, and without their scope, the seven core-bank language builds: the claim chip c-682fb12e was removed for at the v10 re-pack, asked in new words. Not a gate drop, and recorded here so the ledger adds up."
   },
   {
    "kind": "chip",
    "reason": "hand-edit",
    "item": null,
    "item_chars": 191,
    "text_sha": "1250a02d158b",
    "chip_id": "c-c8131b30",
    "withheld": "one chip removed from this pack by hand",
    "removed_utc": "2026-09-25",
    "why": "answers which larger models did not fit whole without the qualifier the page gives every fit verdict: ollama 0.32.13's planner decided each placement and no one overrode it by hand; the claim chip c-98732271 was removed for at the v10 re-pack, asked in new words",
    "detail": "removed from this pack by hand on 2026-09-25 (UTC), after the writer ran and after the gates had counted: answers which larger models did not fit whole without the qualifier the page gives every fit verdict: ollama 0.32.13's planner decided each placement and no one overrode it by hand; the claim chip c-98732271 was removed for at the v10 re-pack, asked in new words. Not a gate drop, and recorded here so the ledger adds up."
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}